Jul 25
I don’t know what exactly happened on 9/11 or what motives were used but I am confident that what happened was not what our government is telling us.
What’s the point of posting this you say? Well I find it one more reason to distrust our government.
Post your comments and let us know what you think.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
did anyone ask you for your opinion about 9/11 ??? seems like every1 does, getting sick of people saying stuff about 9/11.
July 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
The point of a blog is to express your opinion. You don’t have to agree.
August 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I couldn’t find anything in that article that explains the questions brought up in the video.
How could the building fall a virtually free fall speed?
How could all three buildings fall strait down?
What explains the thermal heat in the basement 5 days later?
And I don’t see how believing in something other then what the government tells us somehow is disrespecting or not honoring the victims. From what I hear many of the victims family’s support another investigation.
Thanks for commenting.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Sorry but could you link to something a little more comprehensive? As you have mentioned neither of us are structural engineers. There are however structural engineers in the 911 truth movement.
Here is something else that wouldn’t make sense unless explosives were involved: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
The videos I post I believe speak for themselves. If you don’t think the information in the video is accurate that is your choice. I try my best to find information that appears to be accurate and makes logical sense.
People can make the decision on which side has the most convincing evidence. My posts act as food for thought and reflect my honest opinion.
I have seen a few documentaries that bring up a lot of good questions that don’t make sense if you believe in the official story of 911.
For instance: On the FBI website Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11 and when the FBI was asked why they said they did not have enough evidence.
Keep in mind I might not be able to reply to all of your comments. If anyone else out there would like to respond to Andrew please feel free.
Thanks.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnyL7Nn3eOA – Here are some of the experts I was referring to.
You keep referring to peer reviewed research but honestly it is written at a level I can’t understand.
I am sorry if you don’t respect me and if that is the case then perhaps this blog just isn’t your style. Journalists are not experts on what they report on either.
I don’t believe that all the engineers are in a giant conspiracy but it is also not unlikely that people that find something other then what the government says is true are called conspiracy theory nuts are weeded out by loosing their funding. Like in the example of the woman that found evidence against water fluoridation.
August 6th, 2009 at 6:24 am
You know Dave(?), the ole’ saying rings true “Ingnorance Is Bliss”. I was living in Cali on 9/11/01. As the buildings came down I said to my girlfriend this doesn’t make sense. No, I am not a structural engineer. But I have been in construction long enough to realize that something besides planes had to have brougtht down those incredibly engineered,strong buildings other than two planes. Think about the Pentagon and the lack of reporting on the event and the very little damage that the supposed 737(?) did to it. Do any of you people doubting the video understand this? Forget about the idea that you can discredit the man because he’s “just a theologian”. Do not be afraid to call a spade a spade. Dave, I appreciate your delivery of “your opinion”. There are plenty of well documented films and the like on this topic with plenty of real experts backing what the Mr. Griffin is saying.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Thanks Billie. I appreciate the comment.
August 8th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Ok Andrew, absurd humor is great…sometimes. But if one chooses to believe everything that they are told, what does that say about that individual? First things first: they are not a individual. They must fall in line, anything else does nothing but scare them. I repeat, I take all that is presented to me with a grain of salt, I read between the lines, etc. Do I not sound “P.C.” enough? Oh, well. I believe in the FIRST AMENDMENT. The comedy that I just took the time to watch is funny is some respects, but in comparison to what we are discussing via internet, it’s passive aggressive. Everything the government is saying to us is true…right…I am very glad that I am an American. I am one of the most blessed people in this world being American. But keep in mind what the Roman empire did, for what we are told, to Socrates. Had him commit suicide because he was teaching the children “Wisdom”. Think my friends, think.
August 9th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Comment: “there is rigorous scientific research that has been reviewed by the best experts”….”
Look at the true to life facts by the other ‘experts’ not owned by the government and rewrite your personal view of this event. I mean, come on, are you really being serious? http://www.911documentaries.com/ I dare you to look at even one of these reports.
-Edited by Dave.
August 10th, 2009 at 4:45 am
Ok i am going to give you evidence on how this conspiracy is bull crap and settle this once and for all.
1.For there to have been any sought of demolition work done in the building it would have taken weeks, it takes weeks to blow up a building, ontop of that they would have to be working undercover, people did not report anything like construction and so on, so for them not to report this that whole building willingly complied that they were going to be killed, and lied.
2.Way to many people in a conspiracy, the government only has 2 thumbs, he may have lots of henchmen but none on the scale needed to keep everyones mouth shut, the demolitons experts, the people in the buildings, the firebrigade, the police, forensics, F.B.I, your telling me there is not one person who is gonna confess out of all these people, and the list can go on. more then 20,000 easy, more with gossip to friends or letting it slip out.
3.The plane going missing, these people just got up and said hey you know what im gonna listen to these people leave my family and die in the ocean, or land somewhere else, these people are missing, seriously how hard is it to realise THEY ARE DEAD.
4.the way the buildings went down so fast, the extra weight, and the immense heat on the bars, the jet engines would have caught on fire or the fuel, many explanations on that.
any other therious revert back to answer 2. because that is the main one.
August 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Let’s keep the comments clean everyone. No personal attacks and no swearing. Thanks.
August 10th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
I seriously will sleep well tonight. I agree to disagree with you. Either way, no amount of us arguing via this blog will change what has taken place. I will look more into this, if and when I have the time. I don’t want to keep this going, at least on my part. We could keep comparing “Expert studies” and “statistics research” and still not agree.
August 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
There are two ways I can think of to present a compelling argument. One is peer-reviewed research, and the other is logic.
For example, the amount of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere is less than one half of one-tenth of one percent. At most, one-tenth of that is man-made. There are people who will tell you this naturally occurring compound, which, incidentally, is required by all plant life (trees, grasses, vegetables, life itself) is not only harmful; it is the single biggest factor in warming our planet.
My point: You don’t need to be a scientist to realize, this argument is flat-out ridiculous. A fieldmouse cannot push a 400-pound log uphill, and such a trace amount of so vital a compound cannot have more impact on climate than sunspots, gravitational pull, ocean currents, etc., COMBINED. It is insane to think so.
Now, back on topic. Let’s take Patrick’s excellent logic further. With so many witnesses seeing the planes crash into the towers, including the second one caught on live television, where did the conspirators find pilots and crew to carry out those suicide missions?
And were the hijackings of the other planes, at the same time, an incredible coincidence? The hijackers were described by people on the plane, via cellphone, to be Arabic, as were the folks who tried blowing up the towers in 1993.
So…. your conspiracy theory is that the US government conspired with certain Arab terrorists to set charges to the towers, and then in one massively coordinated effort, the planes are not only hijacked and flown into the towers, but, after letting the buildings smolder awhile, the charges were then detonated.
You think this is reasonable??
Or were the planes hitting the towers an illusion that fooled everone, including the cameras?
August 31st, 2009 at 8:40 am
“With so many witnesses seeing the planes crash into the towers, including the second one caught on live television, where did the conspirators find pilots and crew to carry out those suicide missions?”
Would it not be possible for them to be controlled remotely? From what I have heard 5 of the hijackers have been found alive and well after the hijacking (I don’t know for sure).
The phone calls could have been fake.
Here is an interesting list of the top 10 reasons for thinking the hijackers are fake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMNim2FUD50
How did building 7 collapse at freefall speed? It was never hit by a building and wasn’t even directly adjacent to the twin towers. The buildings adjacent to them were damaged significantly more then building 7 but none of them collapsed.
We may have to respectfully disagree but I do think it is a reasonable position.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:53 am
Now you’re talking about flying huge airliners at 500 miles per hour into the towers, using remote control. Were there any practice runs for this? How/where was that done? We’ve been testing the missile defense shield for decades; these types of technically intricate operations need to have kinks worked out before they can be operationally successful.
How were the phone calls from the airplanes to their families faked? Did the government have expert voice impersonators for all those passengers, good enough to fool their own wives and husbands? Or, were the families in on it, cooperating with a murderous operation that would mean they would never see their loved ones again?
As to how the towers fell as they did, I suggest you read the peer-reviewed material a previous poster took the time to provide. We, as non structural engineers, really don’t know what we’re talking about in that area. For me, I find it impossible that towers that tall could support their own weight in the first place. I also find it impossible that my hard drive holds 300 GB of data.
Dave, you and I agree on many things regarding government, liberty, economics, etc. I believe we both mistrust government, and we mistrust it more and more as it expands. But here’s where we apparently differ: I see government as being generally incompetent.
Social Security, Medicare, the national debt are all running us headlong into bankruptcy and a total collapse of the dollar. There is no such thing as a cost-efficient, well-run major government program. VA hospitals continue to have problems, our public educational system has been failing for decades, our government has done nothing to stop illegal immigration, the party in control (Democrats) are owned by the Trial Lawyers’ Assopciation, so meaningful tort reform cannot happen.
Barney Frank gets the bright idea that people who cannot afford homes should be able to buy them, so the rules for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are relaxed, and look what happens. The government takes over General Motors and the first thing it does is waste billions on a “cash for clunkers” subsidy, in a desperate move to sell cars.
Do you think the government will be able to manage GM into profitability? No, I don’t either.
Politicians in both parties buy into the man-made global warming nonsense, either because they are socialists, simply selling out for votes, too lazy to do a little thinking/research, or just simply too stupid to have any common sense.
So…. trying to convince me these people could get together amongst themselves, organize thousands of demolition experts in a mass-murder pact, secretly solve the logistical problems of flying airliners from commercial airports into buildings remotely (doing who-knows-what with the real passengers and crew), then pulling it all off perfectly, and THEN, keeping everyone quiet, is well beyond belief.
Look at how the government handled Katrina. THAT is more indicative of our governmen’s competence, or lack thereof.
Dave, healthy skepticism of government is a very good and necessary thing. But I think you’ve taken it a bit too far on this one, because to be right, you have to give these politicians WAY more credit than they deserve.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:45 am
“Now you’re talking about flying huge airliners at 500 miles per hour into the towers, using remote control. Were there any practice runs for this? How/where was that done? We’ve been testing the missile defense shield for decades; these types of technically intricate operations need to have kinks worked out before they can be operationally successful.” – Would it be all that different from guided missiles? I don’t find this point especially strong. The could have practiced it more discreetly like landing a plane on remotely or whatever.
“How were the phone calls from the airplanes to their families faked? Did the government have expert voice impersonators for all those passengers, good enough to fool their own wives and husbands? Or, were the families in on it, cooperating with a murderous operation that would mean they would never see their loved ones again?” – I don’t know. Good point though.
“So…. trying to convince me these people could get together amongst themselves, organize thousands of demolition experts in a mass-murder pact, secretly solve the logistical problems of flying airliners from commercial airports into buildings remotely (doing who-knows-what with the real passengers and crew), then pulling it all off perfectly, and THEN, keeping everyone quiet, is well beyond belief.” – Another good point. I think my position on 9/11 is changing.
There are still other questions to be looked at though.
Thank you to everyone for the tone of respect despite the differences of opinion.